I too, was the fool in the audience wondering why things didn't work out so great for me. Dumb 20something pioneer living with my parents, lousy job, crappy car, would never be able to move out on my own. How did these people on the platform do it? Easy, they lied on their FS slips, only had pioneered for a short time hundreds of years ago and act as if they never skipped a beat, maybe thier father-in -law owns a utility company and keeps them on payroll for a tax break or maybe none of it ever happened. I believed it all.
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DC Experiences - reality vs. perception
by sir82 inat a recent dc, an elderly sister was interviewed.
she recounted how she endured through many years of her husband's opposition, never giving up, until finally he relented.
eventually, he bacame baptized and joined her in the full-time pioneer work.. end of experience.
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Does "Drink the Kool-Aid" Lack Punch?
by compound complex inhey dudes and dudettes,.
does the overuse of catchphrases make you want to throw something or someone under the bus?.
i'm on the bubble about i just threw up a little in my .... my bad!
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Amber Rose
Yeah, I'd probably rather have a cup of punch than Kool-aid, maybe Sangria.
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The Friends Ain't So Friendly
by StAnn ini've been thinking.
a lot of posts i read here say things about how the jws are all victims; how people feel so sorry for them; how people believe that the jws they know are really good people who are trapped in a lie.
then i read a lot of other posts about the cruel things the jws do, like shunning, ignoring df'd people on the side of the road with a flat tire, refusing to be charitable to their fellow humans, delighting at the impending deaths of millions of people, and blaming all of their coldness and heartlessness on the fact that they're just following orders from the gb.
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Amber Rose
As I read this post, I immediately thought of the study mentioned by millgal. It also brought to mind Abu Ghraib and an other study done in the 70's dealing with prisoners and gaurds, and also my in-laws who boastfully declare that they would never turn thier back on or shun a family member (because they are superior to JW's who do such things). The truth is no one knows how they will react in a certain situation untill they are out of the situation and look back and say "My god, what have I done?' - either good or bad.
Too often we are too quick to paint others as monsters and ourselves as saints. There's more monster in all of us than we are willing to admit.
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Did you read this: How disfellowshipped family members should be treated.
by Ianua inin the appendix of the new "keep yourselves in god's love"-book i found the following statements regarding contact to ex-jw-family members:.
what if a relative is disfellowshipped?
in such a case, the close bond between family members can pose a real test of loyalty.
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Amber Rose
How recent is the book that this information was taken from?
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The growing irrelevance of the Watchtower message
by drew sagan inin many ways it appears as if the watchtower movement is slowing down.
a number of changes over the last few years certainly show that the watchtower is in a period of transition.
they have cut back on the number of magazines they print as well as lowered the cost of production by eliminating things like hard backed books.
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Amber Rose
They would be happier with fewer members if it means they would have a stronger core.
The problem is how strong is their core and is that core sustainable.
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Painfully Long Prayers on the last day of the 3-day Conventions.
by blkblk13 inanyone else hate this practice?
uve been sitting all day 4 three days @ this place and u just wanna hurry up and finish ur cleaning assignment so u can go out to eat w/ ur friends, but bro.
special speaker from bethel/or do has to give a one man symposium during his prayer recapping every single moment of the past 3 days.. its like they have this formula that they use to determine how long a prayer should be.
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Amber Rose
The super-long prayers are disgusting because it is so painfully obvious that the speaker is not directing his words to God but to the audience.
"...And may we all remember to fulfill our cong.'s cleaning assignment....and we are so thankful for the contribution boxes that you provided...help us to obey the elders..."
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"An Encouraging email"- i really almost threw up.....
by New light for you inok.... are you a glutton for punishment?
you'll love this "encouraging email"..... .
i just received this experience from a friend, how loving a father jehovah is!!!
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Amber Rose
That's amazing! Who would think that in such a highly popuplated area a person would eventually run into some one who was a JW. I mean in a city in America of all places! The hard thing to believe is that it took him 3 years. I think somebody needs help covering their territory in a timely manner.
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{The Simpsons} = Did you know any "Ned Flanders" types in your Hall?
by Witness 007 inus brothers would be having a conversation about sports and this brother "flanders" would always start a spiritual conversation: "on a sunny day like this i just want to thank jehovah for my blessings....i wish we had meetings everyday....i feel bad i didn't go witnessing this weekend.
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many times i wanted to strangle him!...his wife left him and the truth, since then he is worse..
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Amber Rose
Ha! Ha! There was a brother in my former congregation that my dad refered to as "Diddily-diddliy".
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From Rutherford -2008 Watchtower ="dont have kid's till after Armagedon!"
by Witness 007 inyes i thought rutherford's policy on kid's was dead and the society had wised up....until i read the new "witnesses only" watchtower study magazine...compare.. rutherford's last book "children" 1942 = p.281 "wait until after armagedon to bring children into the world...it is only afew years before the other sheep are gathered to the lord, until armagedon...those with infants during armagedon will have greater woe...it would be a far greater difficulty to care for them during the tribulation.".
watchtower 2008 april 15 p.19 {picture of a middle aged couple witnessing with question: why do some christian couples decide not to have children?
} paragraph 12 "single or childless for a noble purpose.....numerous couples have decided to remain childless....they often do so to remain freer to serve jehovah...they are willing to place kingdom interests above some of the privileges that go with marriage...jehovah will not forget their work, and the love they show for his name...there will be a great tribulation...doubtless, it will be a difficult time for all of us-adults and children alike.".
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Amber Rose
I cannot figure out why they would print an article like this. I cannot understand how they think they will benefit from telling people not to have children. I can only see this having a negative effect on people. How are people with children supposed to react to this article? I can see them getting very pissed off, first from the article itself, secondly from all the "friendly encouragement" - comments such as "Oh, that's too bad that you have kids. I bet you feel bad that you can't serve Jehovah more."
Some are suggesting that there is an ulterior motive for printing this. Some think that the WTS is hoping to squeeze more cash out of its members in the form of estate planning. I really don't believe that the WTS is thinking that far ahead. The married couples who do hope to become CO's or missionaries will have no estate to pass on to anyone. They all live paycheck to paycheck and none own homes, they all rent.
I think that this article just provieds further proof of how out of touch they really are and how much they buy into their own crap. No kids means no future, no one to keep the organization going, no new elders, no one left to drop a dollar into the donation box. Keep it up folks, insult the R&F, don't encourage a future generation, see how much longer you will last.
Ugh! And telling them to stay single! For a woman to succeed in the WTS all she can hope for is a husband!
They just hate women and children. Great strategey for building a strong organization!
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Gas Prices & Field Service
by doinmypart inthe reason given for combining the bookstudy with the tms and service meeting was rising gas prices.
whether that was society's true reason for the change or not, that was what the publishers were told.. if i were a publisher contemplating this coming weekend's field service activity and a near-empty gas tank, i simply would not go out.. do you think there will be a corresponding reduction in the number of field service hours as gas prices increase?.
has anyone noticed a trend in the monthly reports published in the km?.
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Amber Rose
Geez! Don't you guys get it! The whole reason they eliminated the book study was to save the friends' gas. So the gas that you would have used driving to and from the meeting is now available for Saturday, all morning long! Plus don't you remember the widow with the small jar of oil and flour that never ran out - that's what Jehovah will do for your gas tank! You know, as long as you don't miss any meetings and have all of your study articles highlighted.